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REUTERS 04-02-92 10:36 AET
. THE REUTER TRANSCRIPT REPORT
NBC'S TODAY SHOW INTERVIEW
Guest: Hillary Clinton, the wife of Democratic presidential candidate Bill
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April 2, 1992
KA THE~ COURIC: And we're very pleased to have
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Hillary Clinton here this morning. Good morning Ms. Clinton.
HILLARY CLINTON: Good morning.
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COURIC: As we just heard. your husband says he does
envision you having a high level role, area of responsibility if
he's elected..
What kind of role do you envision for yourself?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I'm not interested in any kind
of paid position, or cabinet position. or anything formal. or
official. What I would like to do is work on the issues that
I've been involved in for more then 20 years. Primarily
children and families issues, and public education. And the
model, I guess I have is what I've medto do in Arkansas.
My husband asked me to chair two commissions: one on
health care access, and one on public education. And I worked
with terrific people and we came up with recommendations and
drafted legislation. Then I worked on behalf of the passage and
then the implementation. ~at's what I would ~ike to do .
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He said he ~ould co~sideryou for a cabinet
position.
HILLARY CLINTON: Well. I'm proud of him and he's
proud of me. And I think that was avery flattering thing to
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HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I hO'pe so. Because I think
what I represent is generatiO'nal change. It's nO't just abO'ut me
and J think that the kind O'f O'PPO'rtunities that wO'men are CO'ming
intO' their O'wn in this cO'untry are really SO' broad and deep that
we shO'uld all be. willing to' take resPO'nsibility and to' dO' what
we can to' further the causes we believe in.
And what I find, traveling arO'undthe cO'untry is that
there are sO'me peO'ple whO' are cO'ncerned because it seems a
little bit different frO'm·the traditiO'nal.sense. But what L
.. like abO'ut all O'f the wO'men whO' have been in the PO'sitiO'n O'f
being with the president in the White HO'use is that they've all
tried to' dO' what was best fO'r themselves, fO'r their families,
fO'r the cO'untry as they defmed it. And that's what I WO'uid try
to' dO'. and I feel very strO'ngly abO'ut these issues and I WO'uid
feel negligent if I didn't try to' make sO'mething happen fO'r the
better O'f the peO'ple that I think need it.
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COURIC; As we just heard. sO'me peO'ple say SO'me nO't SO'
flattering things about yO'u. They say yO'U are the PO'wer behind
the thrO'wn, O'verly ambitiO'us. What's yO'ur reactiO'n to' cO'mments
such as thO'se?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well. I regret them because I think
they cO'me O'ut O'f a sense O'f stereO'types abO'ut wO'men's rO'les. YO'U
knO'w. a WO'man that dO'es have O'piniO'ns and whO' expresses them is
. sO'mehO'w still O'ff base. I hO'pe that's nO't the case, because yO'U
knO'w. there are many, many wO'men in this cO'untry whO' are dO'ing a
terrific jO'b fulfilling all O'f their variO'US resPO'nsibilities
and they alsO' think abO'ut the issues that effect them and their
families.
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Any O'newhO' knO'ws my.husbandand.knO'ws,me•.knO'ws..that
'we'Vebeen'hav'ing this cO'nversatiO'n abOut what shO'iildbe dO'ne in
this cO'untry fO'r mO're then 20 years. He's the O'ne whO"s
elected. He's the O'ne who has to' make the final decisiO'n, but I
care about what he dO'es and I care about what happens. And I
want to' participate.
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COURIC: DO' yO'U thinkthO'se kinds'O'freactiO'ns, Ms:
ClintO'n are the result O'f gO'O'd O'ld fashiO'ned sexism?
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HILLARY CLINTON: Oh, I think there's sO'me O'f that.
.Because I think it is different. YO'U knO'w. this cO'untry is
undergO'ing tremendO'us change and certainly what is happened in
wO'men's lives O'ver the last generatiO'Q-:.has been a seat change.
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And all O'f us, we're trying to' find O'ur way:·
ThO'se whO' are full time mO'thers and hO'memakers, thO'se
whO' are full time career, and thO'se whO' are the majO'rity O'f us,
trying to' balance bO'th. And I think that we're all trying to'
cO'me to' grips with it
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COURIC: You.cenainly did, however touch more then a
. ' few nerves out on the campaign trail with the now infamous
. line, "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and
... h.ad teas." I know you have since said that was not meant asa
.:·,slighuohomemakersor women who choose to stay-home and work..
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HILLARY CLINTON: -You' know, I'm really sorry about
that because the only person I was trying to put down was Jerry
Brown. I wasn't trying to put anybody else down.
COURIC: Do you regret having said that?
HILLAR Y CLINTON: I regret having had it taken out of
context and misconstrued. Because what I was trying to say is
that in response to some of the charges that he had leveled.
there was an underlying message to what he had said. In fact,
in response to a question about his father'S law fInn doing
business withthe state when he was governor, he said, "Well, I
don't control my father." And you know that wasn't very subtle
and I was trying to point out that his attitude seemed to be
that I should have only confIned myself to the ceremonial role
of a fIrst lady. And I've enjoyed that role, but I've also
enjoyed, very much doing t.he rest of my life, So I regret that
anybody would have thought I was putting any other woman down.
Women need to have some sense of solidarity to respect the·
choices that each of us make and then try to put into effect
policies that would support those choices.
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COURIC: But you probably wish you hadn't said it in
the fIrst place?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, what I had said before and
what I's said after had all been pan of the sound bite. But
I'm learning that that's not always what you could expect. .
COURIC: In fact, in a recent article in The
Washington Post, you're quoted as saying, "I'm a little
confused about what the rules are." What did you mean by that,
exactly?
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terrain. And I think that any of us, who is trying to make
sense out of our lives has all kinds of different feelings. I
mean my friends who are full time in the work world, often
regret not having a family. My friends who are full time at
home get that tinge of anger when somebody says, "Well what do
you do?", And then, many of us who are trying at different
stages of our lives to balance both roles are afflicted by
guilt, and insecurity, and anxiety about all the things we're
trying to do.
And I'm really hoping that because of maybe my being
out there--and I'd never have thought of this as really any kind
of effect of this campaign--the conversation that needs to go on
in this country about what women are trying to do with their
lives and how difficult we make it in America for women to make
those choices.
You know, we don't respect full time homemakers. We
don't give the kind of support. We don't provide the kind of
income support families need so that more women could make that
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get it resolved.
COURIC: You're learning a lot, undoubtedly.
HILLARY CLINTON: Oh,Tm learning a whole lot.
COURIC: Let's talk about your husband for a minute.
He is the front runner. Yet at the same time. there remain
lingering question in the minds of some Americans about his
character and his trustworthiness. Why do you think that's so?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I think it's in part because
he burst on the national scene. People didn't know him. He's
not from a big state with a lot of media attention, so that they
could have gotten to have some sense of hirit over time. The
charges and accusations that have been hurled at him have
certainly been extraordinary and relentless.
But in the region of the country where he is well
known, he's done very well. And certainly in our state, which
is a small state, where he's been elected five time, people have
had lot's of opportunities to judge his character. And people
can disagree with my husband, as th~y do at home, but until this
campaign, no one had ever raised questions about his honesty, or
his integrity. or his character.
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COURIC: Why do you think that hasn't translated
nationally though?
HILLARY CLINTON: Well, I think it is. If you look at
what happened on Super Tuesday, if you look at what happened in
Michigan and Illinois, as people get to know my husband, as they
see what kind of a man he is, as they watch what he believes in
and w.hat he's committed to, they,do become comfortable.. It just
. •'is a constant process, 'because each' primary election is a new: .
electorate. You have to reintroduce yourself. You have to get
to know them. And the time is so compressed. I mean, we'll
only be in New York in an intense way for two weeks.
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have the two of you learned about presidential politics?
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HILLARY CLINTON: Well, we've learned both positive
and negative les.sons, I suppose. On the positive side; we've
learned a lot about how people in this country want change. And
that's what they talk to us about. They give us their
suggestions.
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The negative side; we've learned how hard it is to
talk about what really will matter the day. after the election,
and instead to avoid getting diverted and have the process kind
of twisted around so that at the end of the day, people are
still saying, "Oh gosh, what's going to happen to my job?" .
or "How am I going to educate my children?" or "provide
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