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This is not a presidential record. This is used as an administrative
marker by the William J. Clinton Presidential Library Staff.
Documents from this Mandatory Declassification Review were
released in part.
Those documents released with redactions have been restricted
under Sections 1.4 (b), (d), and (e) of E.O. 13526.
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MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
SUBJECT:
Nawaz S h a r i f , Prime M i n i s t e r o f Pakistan
PARTICIPANTS;
U.S.
The President
Madeleine A l b r i g h t
John Podesta
Samuel Berger
Strobe T a l b o t t
James Steinberg
Leon Fuerth
Pakistan
Prime M i n i s t e r Nawaz S h a r i f
S a r t a j Aziz, Foreign M i n i s t e r
Ishaq Dar, Finance M i n i s t e r
Mushahid Hussain Syed, M i n i s t e r o f
I n f o r m a t i o n and Media
Shamshad Ahmad, Foreign Secretary
Ambassador Riaz Khokhar
T a r i q Fatemi, Foreign Secretary
Bruce R i e d e l , NSC Notetaker
DATE, TIME
AND PLACE:
[ A f t e r Pool Sprays]
December 2, 1998, 1:30p.m. - 3:15p.m.
Oval O f f i c e and Old Family D i n i n g Room
(U)
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f :
than I remember. (U)
I t ' s l o v e l y weather here.
Much n i c e r
The P r e s i d e n t : I t ' s very unusual. I t ' s a b e a u t i f u l , c l e a r ,
warm day. We survived press a l l r i g h t . You're t h e guest, you
go f i r s t .
I have 2 or 3 items t o review here:
n o n p r o l i f e r a t i o n , F-16s. We can discuss other issues elsewhere.
We have a f u l l agenda today. fS-}
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f : Thank you f o r the i n v i t a t i o n . You may
be more popular i n South Asia than a t home. (Laughter) We value
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our t i e s w i t h you tremendously.
C o n g r a t u l a t i o n s on the
congressional e l e c t i o n s . I want t o move forward from where we
l e f t o f f a t UNGA. We are keen t o work w i t h you. We are ready
t o r e s o l v e CTBT issue and adhere t o i t before September 1999.
We i n t e n d t o do i t . Strobe and Shamshad have worked t h i s hard.
He has my mandate t o r e s o l v e t h i s .
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[ P a r t i c i p a n t s are escorted i n t o the Old Family Dining Room where
they are j o i n e d by the f o l l o w i n g a d d i t i o n a l p a r t i c i p a n t s : U.S.
— Secretary Rubin, Secretary Richardson, Gene S p e r l i n g ,
Ambassador Milam, Rick I n d e r f u r t h ( A s s i s t a n t Secretary o f State
f o r South A s i a ) , and Jim Steinberg; Pakistan — Anwar Zahid
(Special A s s i s t a n t t o the Prime M i n i s t e r , Shabaz S h a r i f (Prime
M i n i s t e r ' s b r o t h e r ) and Muhammad Saeed Mehdi ( P r i n c i p a l
Secretary t o the Prime M i n i s t e r ) . Lunch began a t 2:25 p.m. and
ended a t 3:15 p.m.] f&)
The P r e s i d e n t :
We're e a t i n g l a t e again.
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f :
(U)
I was i n Oslo yesterday.
(U)
The P r e s i d e n t : I t ' s a wonderful place. I v i s i t e d there 29
years ago.
I want t o go t o your p a r t o f the w o r l d . H i l l a r y and
Chelsea loved i t . (U)
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f :
The P r e s i d e n t :
heat ends? (U)
I s i t good weather then?
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f :
Mr. Shabaz S h a r i f :
c a p i t a l i n Punjab.
The President:
We hope i n March or A p r i l .
September.
How long before t h e
(U)
I hope you w i l l v i s i t Lahore t o see my
I t i s the heart o f Pakistan. (U)
What i s the population?
Mr. Shabaz S h a r i f :
Karachi. (U)
fG}
(U)
Five m i l l i o n i n Lahore.
Ten m i l l i o n i n
The P r e s i d e n t : China has a dozen c i t i e s w i t h over three m i l l i o n
people p l u s over 1,000 v i l l a g e s . (U)
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Mr. A z i z :
(U)
We have a 70-30 r a t i o o f r u r a l t o urban p o p u l a t i o n .
The P r e s i d e n t : While we have lunch, would you b r i e f us on your
economy and how we can help. (U)
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f :
this.
(U)
I ' l l l e t my Commerce M i n i s t e r discuss
Mr. Dar: The economy was on a downward path when the Prime
M i n i s t e r came t o power. The GNP was down. We s t a r t e d t o t u r n
t h i n g s around when the Asian c r i s i s and sanctions s t r u c k us.
M u l t i l a t e r a l loans were h u r t . We had tough d i s c u s s i o n s w i t h the
IMF. We reached a tough agreement on 24 November. We faced an
increase i n petroleum p r i c e s . We were hoping f o r a quick
response from the Paris Club. I t i s scheduled f o r 9 December
which means no a c t i o n u n t i l January. We have r e s o l v e d the
Independent Power Producers (IPP) problem e n t i r e l y t o a l l sides'
s a t i s f a c t i o n . What we need now i s a Paris Club package. As I
e x p l a i n e d t o Secretary Rubin, we need your help w i t h the P a r i s
Club. We need a r e a c t i v a t i o n of previous programs — around
$600 m i l l i o n . We need a s i g n a l now. On the World Bank side, we
also need some s i g n a l s . We request you weigh i n t h e r e as w e l l .
We are c u r r e n t w i t h a l l other banks. The impact o f s a n c t i o n s
has been a 3 percent f a l l i n GDP w i t h another 2 percent expected
next year and 1% i n 2000. That i s a $12 b i l l i o n loss over
3 years. We want t o focus on poverty t o o . We also q u a l i f y f o r
the new emergency f a c i l i t y created a f t e r the South East Asia
c r i s i s . We are l o s i n g 1 percent from trade due t o the c r i s i s i n
South East A s i a . We w i l l see 3.1 percent drop i n GDP.
We need
help. We also need a l a r g e r t e x t i l e quota. I n p r i n c i p l e you
have agreed t o i t but now we need t o put i t i n p r a c t i c e .
We
would increase by $750 m i l l i o n . We expected 5 percent growth,
so a 3 percent d e c l i n e i s d e v a s t a t i n g . f&)
The President:
Mr. Dar:
And debt service?
(U)
Almost 60 percent of budget.
(€-)
Mr. Rubin: A f t e r the Paris Club, what w i l l be the debt s e r v i c e
r a t i o ? f€-)
Mr. Dar:
Mr. Rubin:
fG-)
We want a moratorium f o r 3 years.
We w i l l be d i s c u s s i n g t h i s more.
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Mr. President.
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The President:
c r i s i s . (U)
Mr. Rubin:
I'm very concerned about t h e Asian f i n a n c i a l
How much has the Japan c r i s i s h u r t you?
(U)
Mr. Dar: Very much. We got l o t s o f a i d from Japan which we
l o s t due t o s a n c t i o n s . We l o s t much trade as w e l l , b u t t h i s was
also due t o the weakness o f Japan's economy. f&)
The President: The condition of the Japanese economy is the
single key to world economic health. We've tried to help. If
you look at the size of their economy real economic health
requires Japan to recover. It has been five years of no growth
there. Now it is affecting us. The Boeing layoffs are a symbol
of this.
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Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f : We are l o o k i n g t o buy planes from
Boeing. I f we can't get F-16s w e ' l l go f o r 747 s. ( l a u g h t e r )
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The President:
Boeing w i l l give you a good deal now. fe}
[There i s more d i s c u s s i o n on the need f o r g l o b a l bank reforms.]
(U)
The P r e s i d e n t :
I am concerned about investment f l o w s .
(U)
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f : Ambassador Richardson went t o
A f g h a n i s t a n . I had hoped f o r some f o l l o w - u p . I urge you t o
have some d i r e c t contact w i t h Taliban. fS-)
Mrs. A l b r i g h t : We have very serious problems w i t h them. Their
treatment o f women and others i s very s e r i o u s . Need f o l l o w - u p
on 6+2 t o deal w i t h t h e r e a l i t y o f a m u l t i e t h n i c s o c i e t y . I t
i s a g r e a t tragedy. fG}
Prime Minister Sharif: We suffer greatly from this tragedy. We
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The P r e s i d e n t : I t ' s very u n f a i r .
the UN -- on Islam. (U)
Prime M i n i s t e r S h a r i f :
—
I'm g l a d I spoke on t h i s a t
We are t o t a l l y w i t h you on t h i s .
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